1 00:00:04,470 --> 00:00:02,950 now earth day is uh coming up here a 2 00:00:06,070 --> 00:00:04,480 little later this month 3 00:00:08,150 --> 00:00:06,080 and uh over the course of the month 4 00:00:09,750 --> 00:00:08,160 we've been taking an effort to highlight 5 00:00:12,549 --> 00:00:09,760 some of the ways that the international 6 00:00:14,310 --> 00:00:12,559 space station science program is adding 7 00:00:16,550 --> 00:00:14,320 to the body of knowledge about our 8 00:00:18,790 --> 00:00:16,560 planet that includes a number of 9 00:00:21,029 --> 00:00:18,800 different cameras that are pointed down 10 00:00:23,509 --> 00:00:21,039 at the planet many of them gathering 11 00:00:25,750 --> 00:00:23,519 very specific kinds of data 12 00:00:28,790 --> 00:00:25,760 one of them is an experimental camera 13 00:00:31,109 --> 00:00:28,800 system known as iserv and it recently 14 00:00:32,790 --> 00:00:31,119 finished its first year of operation 15 00:00:35,190 --> 00:00:32,800 payload developer and principal 16 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:35,200 investigator is burgess howell at nasa's 17 00:00:38,630 --> 00:00:36,880 marshall space flight center and he 18 00:00:39,670 --> 00:00:38,640 joins us this morning from huntsville 19 00:00:41,190 --> 00:00:39,680 alabama 20 00:00:42,869 --> 00:00:41,200 burgess you described this as an 21 00:00:46,709 --> 00:00:42,879 experimental system 22 00:00:51,350 --> 00:00:48,549 well pat the um 23 00:00:54,229 --> 00:00:51,360 as an earth observing scientist we see 24 00:00:56,630 --> 00:00:54,239 iss as an interesting uh 25 00:00:58,869 --> 00:00:56,640 interesting platform for various methods 26 00:01:00,950 --> 00:00:58,879 of earth observation uh covering various 27 00:01:02,869 --> 00:01:00,960 portions of the electromagnetic spectrum 28 00:01:05,109 --> 00:01:02,879 we're interested in for instance visible 29 00:01:08,550 --> 00:01:05,119 and near infrared mid and far infrared 30 00:01:10,310 --> 00:01:08,560 and even microwave radiation 31 00:01:11,990 --> 00:01:10,320 as opposed to what 32 00:01:13,830 --> 00:01:12,000 most people may be familiar with in 33 00:01:16,789 --> 00:01:13,840 terms of nasa's efforts with earth 34 00:01:18,070 --> 00:01:16,799 observation the the the most commonly uh 35 00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:18,080 known would be like the a train 36 00:01:21,749 --> 00:01:20,640 satellites landsat e01 those guys 37 00:01:24,870 --> 00:01:21,759 um 38 00:01:27,429 --> 00:01:24,880 iss has a a very interesting orbit and 39 00:01:30,069 --> 00:01:27,439 it allows us to see things on the earth 40 00:01:32,310 --> 00:01:30,079 from different locations with different 41 00:01:34,710 --> 00:01:32,320 sun angles different view angles 42 00:01:36,710 --> 00:01:34,720 and allows us to be 43 00:01:38,870 --> 00:01:36,720 sort of a calibration and validation 44 00:01:41,910 --> 00:01:38,880 source for a variety of other 45 00:01:43,350 --> 00:01:41,920 instruments that nasa and other agencies 46 00:01:45,830 --> 00:01:43,360 have flying so 47 00:01:48,389 --> 00:01:45,840 pathfinder is a low-cost high return on 48 00:01:50,469 --> 00:01:48,399 investment means for us to develop the 49 00:01:52,230 --> 00:01:50,479 processes and procedures 50 00:01:54,069 --> 00:01:52,240 and to gain experience and expertise in 51 00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:54,079 earth observation from the international 52 00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:55,280 space station 53 00:01:59,749 --> 00:01:57,439 in order to pave the way for future and 54 00:02:01,190 --> 00:01:59,759 more capable instrumentation 55 00:02:02,149 --> 00:02:01,200 tell me where 56 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:02,159 your 57 00:02:05,429 --> 00:02:04,000 the genesis of this for for you this 58 00:02:07,510 --> 00:02:05,439 specific kind of camera where'd that 59 00:02:09,749 --> 00:02:07,520 come from 60 00:02:12,390 --> 00:02:09,759 well let me give you a little background 61 00:02:14,869 --> 00:02:12,400 we are we're part of uh a project called 62 00:02:16,070 --> 00:02:14,879 severe and i'll inflict my bad spanish 63 00:02:19,670 --> 00:02:16,080 on you here for a second it's the 64 00:02:21,430 --> 00:02:19,680 systema reggio now the visualization 65 00:02:23,750 --> 00:02:21,440 which translated into english is the 66 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:23,760 regional system for visualization and 67 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:26,160 monitoring 68 00:02:32,229 --> 00:02:29,760 we utilize the existing assets or assets 69 00:02:34,390 --> 00:02:32,239 from other sources other agencies 70 00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:34,400 to provide science-based applications 71 00:02:38,390 --> 00:02:36,400 and tools that will assist 72 00:02:40,390 --> 00:02:38,400 those who might make environmental 73 00:02:42,229 --> 00:02:40,400 decisions primarily in the developing 74 00:02:44,470 --> 00:02:42,239 world 75 00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:44,480 we operate mostly in 76 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:46,400 the global earth observation system of 77 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:48,640 systems societal benefits area there are 78 00:02:54,630 --> 00:02:51,120 nine of those health energy water 79 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:54,640 ecosystems agriculture et cetera and 80 00:02:59,030 --> 00:02:57,040 one of them in particular disasters 81 00:03:01,430 --> 00:02:59,040 looked like a place where we could 82 00:03:03,670 --> 00:03:01,440 provide some tangible and valuable 83 00:03:05,670 --> 00:03:03,680 results while accomplishing the the test 84 00:03:07,750 --> 00:03:05,680 bed goals that i mentioned before of 85 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:07,760 gaining the expertise and experience to 86 00:03:12,309 --> 00:03:10,239 uh to 87 00:03:14,710 --> 00:03:12,319 to provide the information for for 88 00:03:16,309 --> 00:03:14,720 future instrumentation systems and and 89 00:03:18,550 --> 00:03:16,319 we are going to show some pictures here 90 00:03:20,790 --> 00:03:18,560 in a minute but before we do uh describe 91 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:20,800 the the camera equipment that's in use 92 00:03:24,869 --> 00:03:22,720 for for iserv and just where on the 93 00:03:27,509 --> 00:03:24,879 station it's located 94 00:03:29,830 --> 00:03:27,519 yeah sure um well first we we operate in 95 00:03:31,350 --> 00:03:29,840 the in the destiny module that's the the 96 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:31,360 science module there 97 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:32,400 there is a 98 00:03:37,990 --> 00:03:35,040 high quality earth facing 99 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:38,000 window about 20 inches in diameter 100 00:03:41,430 --> 00:03:39,840 through which we are able to to see the 101 00:03:44,070 --> 00:03:41,440 earth we're in a 102 00:03:49,509 --> 00:03:44,080 a payload 103 00:03:51,910 --> 00:03:49,519 observational research facility wharf 104 00:03:55,350 --> 00:03:51,920 it's essentially a a light safe box a 105 00:03:59,270 --> 00:03:57,750 some mounting provisions and some 106 00:04:01,830 --> 00:03:59,280 connections to the infrastructure their 107 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:01,840 power and data connections so that we 108 00:04:04,789 --> 00:04:03,360 can hook up the hardware and the 109 00:04:06,470 --> 00:04:04,799 computers that are required to run the 110 00:04:08,789 --> 00:04:06,480 system and uh and look out through that 111 00:04:10,789 --> 00:04:08,799 window uh down at the earth and and make 112 00:04:13,030 --> 00:04:10,799 our observations and shooting through 113 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:13,040 the system 114 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:18,069 it is uh it is just about the best glass 115 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:20,239 uh you can get it's uh it's it's 116 00:04:23,189 --> 00:04:22,160 beautiful it's it's extraordinarily high 117 00:04:25,909 --> 00:04:23,199 quality 118 00:04:28,150 --> 00:04:25,919 uh virtually distortion free and uh it 119 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:28,160 suits our purposes very well as well as 120 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:29,600 the suit the purposes of other 121 00:04:34,550 --> 00:04:32,240 instruments that come behind us here 122 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:34,560 the system is is based on commercial 123 00:04:39,990 --> 00:04:37,440 office self hardware it's it's the two 124 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:40,000 primary components are a commercial uh 125 00:04:44,310 --> 00:04:42,400 digital single lens reflex camera and a 126 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:44,320 nine and a quarter inch aperture 127 00:04:50,550 --> 00:04:46,960 astronomical grade telescope 128 00:04:52,790 --> 00:04:50,560 again commercially obtained here in town 129 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:52,800 we do have some modifications some 130 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:54,160 physical modifications to the system 131 00:04:58,870 --> 00:04:56,639 that improve our position within wharf 132 00:05:00,550 --> 00:04:58,880 and they also help our pointing geometry 133 00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:00,560 make us better located with respect to 134 00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:03,120 the window so we can see a broader field 135 00:05:06,790 --> 00:05:05,360 of view there plus we have some some 136 00:05:08,710 --> 00:05:06,800 other 137 00:05:10,469 --> 00:05:08,720 custom mounting bits power and data 138 00:05:12,150 --> 00:05:10,479 connections things like that are the 139 00:05:13,670 --> 00:05:12,160 crew members on orbit taking these 140 00:05:15,189 --> 00:05:13,680 pictures or are you taking them from the 141 00:05:18,070 --> 00:05:15,199 ground 142 00:05:19,670 --> 00:05:18,080 no the the system is is entirely uh 143 00:05:21,430 --> 00:05:19,680 remotely controlled from our science 144 00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:21,440 operations center here at uh the 145 00:05:24,150 --> 00:05:22,880 national space science and technology 146 00:05:25,909 --> 00:05:24,160 center we're affiliated with marshall 147 00:05:28,390 --> 00:05:25,919 here in huntsville alabama 148 00:05:30,710 --> 00:05:28,400 it's driven by some custom software that 149 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:30,720 was developed here at marshall and 150 00:05:35,029 --> 00:05:32,400 we have the option to 151 00:05:36,629 --> 00:05:35,039 operate it in real time by you know 152 00:05:38,230 --> 00:05:36,639 sitting there watching the earth go by 153 00:05:41,110 --> 00:05:38,240 underneath us and and pushing the 154 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:41,120 buttons as necessary or we can run via a 155 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:42,800 timed command system which is our 156 00:05:49,029 --> 00:05:44,560 primary method of operation that allows 157 00:05:50,790 --> 00:05:49,039 us to pre-plan our our shots we just 158 00:05:53,430 --> 00:05:50,800 tell the camera when 159 00:05:56,070 --> 00:05:53,440 the target of interest is coming by what 160 00:05:58,230 --> 00:05:56,080 time it needs to swing over into 161 00:05:59,830 --> 00:05:58,240 the the right position to to acquire the 162 00:06:01,510 --> 00:05:59,840 images the station goes over and it 163 00:06:03,670 --> 00:06:01,520 takes the images and and stores them on 164 00:06:06,629 --> 00:06:03,680 board for us we then do the down linking 165 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:06,639 here at uh at marshall and do the basic 166 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:08,880 command processing uh i'm sorry the data 167 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:10,800 processing before we archive and 168 00:06:14,710 --> 00:06:13,120 distribute the data sets the crew 169 00:06:16,870 --> 00:06:14,720 actually don't have any involvement 170 00:06:18,950 --> 00:06:16,880 except for uh helping us 171 00:06:21,830 --> 00:06:18,960 with a few hiccups and and we have had a 172 00:06:24,230 --> 00:06:21,840 few as we've operated we had a 173 00:06:27,430 --> 00:06:24,240 fairly significant pointing problem uh 174 00:06:29,189 --> 00:06:27,440 back uh last summer and uh koichi wataka 175 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:29,199 was one of the uh the fellows who helped 176 00:06:34,070 --> 00:06:31,360 us out earlier this year and in getting 177 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:34,080 our system repaired and back up let's 178 00:06:37,350 --> 00:06:35,919 take a look at some of the pictures that 179 00:06:39,670 --> 00:06:37,360 you're getting you 180 00:06:41,270 --> 00:06:39,680 provided us with a little sampling and 181 00:06:43,909 --> 00:06:41,280 we'll put the first one up on the screen 182 00:06:46,710 --> 00:06:43,919 right now describe uh what we're seeing 183 00:06:51,189 --> 00:06:46,720 here the uh this is part of mongolia 184 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:51,199 right yeah this is um this is the uh the 185 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:54,240 south western edge of the shore 186 00:06:59,029 --> 00:06:56,800 of a lake called uts nour it's in 187 00:07:00,390 --> 00:06:59,039 mongolia it's very interesting from from 188 00:07:02,550 --> 00:07:00,400 our point of view remember we look at 189 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:02,560 things from environmental 190 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:04,080 decision-making point of view this is 191 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:07,520 the center of a a very delicate and very 192 00:07:15,029 --> 00:07:13,350 area of biodiversity in in mongolia 193 00:07:16,629 --> 00:07:15,039 the the lake itself is interesting 194 00:07:18,390 --> 00:07:16,639 because it's indirect in other words 195 00:07:20,070 --> 00:07:18,400 there's there's a flow only into the 196 00:07:21,510 --> 00:07:20,080 lake there's no flow out the basin 197 00:07:22,390 --> 00:07:21,520 around it flows in 198 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:22,400 um 199 00:07:26,950 --> 00:07:24,560 this uh 200 00:07:28,230 --> 00:07:26,960 causes a couple things number one uh and 201 00:07:29,749 --> 00:07:28,240 most importantly it increases the 202 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:29,759 salinity of the lake the lake is about 203 00:07:33,749 --> 00:07:32,560 half as salty as as ocean water but it 204 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:33,759 creates a 205 00:07:37,830 --> 00:07:36,240 a very diverse landscape around and you 206 00:07:39,589 --> 00:07:37,840 see in this in this image here a lot of 207 00:07:41,990 --> 00:07:39,599 these bright spots these are actually 208 00:07:43,670 --> 00:07:42,000 salt deposits as the as the lake recedes 209 00:07:45,189 --> 00:07:43,680 as it evaporates and it is evaporating 210 00:07:47,110 --> 00:07:45,199 away it's one of the reasons why we're 211 00:07:48,869 --> 00:07:47,120 we're interested in it we're looking at 212 00:07:50,150 --> 00:07:48,879 how the the region is changing by the 213 00:07:52,150 --> 00:07:50,160 evaporation of the lake but the assault 214 00:07:53,749 --> 00:07:52,160 deposits left behind there okay it's 215 00:07:56,230 --> 00:07:53,759 kind of interesting to look at sorry to 216 00:07:58,309 --> 00:07:56,240 interrupt i i'm jumped ahead uh on your 217 00:08:01,270 --> 00:07:58,319 list i put up this picture of the grand 218 00:08:02,230 --> 00:08:01,280 canyon because i found that to be really 219 00:08:03,589 --> 00:08:02,240 amazing 220 00:08:05,350 --> 00:08:03,599 can you describe what we're seeing in 221 00:08:07,430 --> 00:08:05,360 that picture 222 00:08:09,350 --> 00:08:07,440 sure um you know grand canyon it's one 223 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:09,360 of the the great geological formations 224 00:08:12,469 --> 00:08:10,960 of the world and it's it's part of the 225 00:08:14,469 --> 00:08:12,479 continent's physical and cultural 226 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:14,479 heritage and we were very happy to get 227 00:08:19,270 --> 00:08:17,520 this uh get this image of it back last 228 00:08:21,830 --> 00:08:19,280 spring 229 00:08:23,749 --> 00:08:21,840 what you see here is is a shot that's 230 00:08:25,589 --> 00:08:23,759 very near the uh the grand canyon 231 00:08:27,749 --> 00:08:25,599 village it's unfortunately just out of 232 00:08:29,189 --> 00:08:27,759 frame lower left but at the very bottom 233 00:08:32,469 --> 00:08:29,199 i think you may be able to see there the 234 00:08:34,709 --> 00:08:32,479 parallel paths of the uh the rim highway 235 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:34,719 and the uh and the train that that go 236 00:08:39,269 --> 00:08:37,440 into the um into the uh the grand canyon 237 00:08:41,509 --> 00:08:39,279 village uh of course through the center 238 00:08:43,829 --> 00:08:41,519 there is uh the grand can is the uh is 239 00:08:46,710 --> 00:08:43,839 the colorado river that uh 240 00:08:48,230 --> 00:08:46,720 that is responsible for carving the uh 241 00:08:49,670 --> 00:08:48,240 the landscape through the grand canyon 242 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:49,680 there and it's uh 243 00:08:53,030 --> 00:08:50,640 uh 244 00:08:54,470 --> 00:08:53,040 it's a fascinating piece of geology i 245 00:08:56,550 --> 00:08:54,480 have a little bit of geology background 246 00:08:58,550 --> 00:08:56,560 and i i really enjoy looking at this 247 00:09:00,310 --> 00:08:58,560 stuff just uh near the center there just 248 00:09:01,990 --> 00:09:00,320 off center to the bottom that's the the 249 00:09:03,829 --> 00:09:02,000 trail head for the south kaibab trail 250 00:09:05,110 --> 00:09:03,839 one trail is one of the one of the very 251 00:09:07,430 --> 00:09:05,120 popular trails that goes down into the 252 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:07,440 canyon itself and i look we have time 253 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:09,680 for one more and i want to get you to 254 00:09:13,750 --> 00:09:11,440 to talk a little bit about the fact that 255 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:13,760 sometimes you get called in to help uh 256 00:09:18,389 --> 00:09:16,399 to do work after disasters take place 257 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:18,399 you showed us a 258 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:20,880 a couple of pictures that you shot of 259 00:09:26,389 --> 00:09:25,200 where the tornado hit in moore oklahoma 260 00:09:28,710 --> 00:09:26,399 yeah um 261 00:09:31,110 --> 00:09:28,720 moore oklahoma of course back in in may 262 00:09:32,550 --> 00:09:31,120 of last year there was a the devastating 263 00:09:34,070 --> 00:09:32,560 tornado that 264 00:09:37,350 --> 00:09:34,080 ripped through moore 265 00:09:39,030 --> 00:09:37,360 and uh killed 24 people and it was a 266 00:09:41,910 --> 00:09:39,040 horrible tragic event we were asked to 267 00:09:44,070 --> 00:09:41,920 do some imaging uh in the aftermath to 268 00:09:45,910 --> 00:09:44,080 to document the the path of the the 269 00:09:47,829 --> 00:09:45,920 storm through moore there 270 00:09:49,509 --> 00:09:47,839 um as you can see running diagonally 271 00:09:50,550 --> 00:09:49,519 from lower left upper right that's the 272 00:09:53,509 --> 00:09:50,560 interstate that goes through the middle 273 00:09:55,910 --> 00:09:53,519 of town there just uh just to the upper 274 00:09:58,389 --> 00:09:55,920 left of that is where uh plaza towers 275 00:10:00,310 --> 00:09:58,399 elementary stood that was the site where 276 00:10:02,949 --> 00:10:00,320 those seven children were killed but we 277 00:10:04,790 --> 00:10:02,959 did this as as a 278 00:10:07,590 --> 00:10:04,800 a collaborative effort here with another 279 00:10:10,230 --> 00:10:07,600 group at uh at marshall that 280 00:10:12,389 --> 00:10:10,240 operates in uh looking at near real-time 281 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:12,399 weather forecasting and they also uh 282 00:10:17,030 --> 00:10:14,720 look at the uh the effects of severe 283 00:10:18,630 --> 00:10:17,040 storms uh in uh primarily in the united 284 00:10:19,829 --> 00:10:18,640 states but in other parts of the country 285 00:10:22,870 --> 00:10:19,839 as well 286 00:10:24,389 --> 00:10:22,880 those are amazing pictures and i think 287 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:24,399 it's great to see those kind of things 288 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:26,320 uh burgess hell thank you for taking 289 00:10:29,670 --> 00:10:27,600 some time to 290 00:10:30,829 --> 00:10:29,680 tell us about iserv and what it's doing 291 00:10:32,790 --> 00:10:30,839 onboard the space 292 00:10:34,310 --> 00:10:32,800 station thank you pat we appreciate the 293 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:34,320 opportunity to talk to you burgess 294 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:36,480 howell is the payload developer and the 295 00:10:41,350 --> 00:10:39,120 principal investigator for the iserv